Ancient math of Ethiopia amazing method of Mathematics calculation
Evidence of African civilization in the form of math calculations. Ethiopia also has free standin obelisks that are thousands of years old, weigh hundreds of…
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Ancient math of Ethiopia amazing method of Mathematics calculation
This is very interesting…great video. I would like to get a better
understanding of the mathematic system as a whole…maybe someone will post
more videos covering the subject
so clever
Pity this is on bbc4 not main stream primetime bbc1
Bravo
An important (philosophical) question…
My worry: Fictional or real, it is a fact that logic (math) is compatible
with the functions in the universe to an immense range of scales that
surpass human experience (hence, I believe, evolution is not enough to
give a satisfactory answer given that this knowledge became available a few
hundred years ago – give or take). An this range is reasonable to expect
that will become much wider in the next few hundred years. So, what is the
relation of the human brain function to the function of physical phenomena
that are describable in terms of math (and many of them lie beyond the
everyday experience)?
Is Math a Feature of the Universe or a Feature of Human Creation? | Idea
Channel | PBS
An important (philosophical) question…
My worry: Fictional or real, it is a fact that logic (math) is compatible
with the functions in the universe to an immense range of scales that
surpass human experience (hence, I believe, evolution is not enough to
give a satisfactory answer given that this knowledge became available a few
hundred years ago – give or take). An this range is reasonable to expect
that will become much wider in the next few hundred years. So, what is the
relation of the human brain function to the function of physical phenomena
that are describable in terms of math (and many of them lie beyond the
everyday experience)?
Is Math a Feature of the Universe or a Feature of Human Creation? | Idea
Channel | PBS
Math is a man made tool that helps us understand the laws of the universe
because it is constantly evolving with new techniques. Math isn’t real
because I am convinced that an alien race could come to same conclusions
that our mathematical system using a completely different system. Remember
that measurements like the foot came from an actual foot which makes it a
man made method to understand the universe.
Have your mind blown. :D
This video hit me like a pop song that I can’t get out of my head. I guess
I’ve always thought math was a language used to describe things, but now
I’m not so sure. I hope maybe +Artem Kaznatcheev will pick up on this and
write something.
Another reason math can exist without us is because of the very things that
make up the universe, they are purely mathematical subatomic particles,
they just have quantities for their properties, e.g mass, spin, charge,
etc.. Humans couldnt have created math if by doing so will mean it creates
all of the very objects that make up the universe, as they are already in
the universe long before us, possibly created by the theoretical big bang
commenting before watching like an idiot, but how can ideas not exist? what
kind of definition of “exist” are you using??
An important (philosophical) question…
My worry: Fictional or real, it is a fact that logic (math) is compatible
with the functions in the universe to an immense range of scales that
surpass human experience (hence, I believe, evolution is not enough to
give a satisfactory answer given that this knowledge became available a few
hundred years ago – give or take). An this range is reasonable to expect
that will become much wider in the next few hundred years. So, what is the
relation of the human brain function to the function of physical phenomena
that are describable in terms of math (and many of them lie beyond the
everyday experience)?
Is Math a Feature of the Universe or a Feature of Human Creation? | Idea
Channel | PBS
As an undergraduate math student, I’ve been discusing this quite a bit with
my fellow students, and most seem to think that it’s either a language, a
way to describe aspects of the universe (sort of like meta-physics of
sorts) or a human invention. There aren’t many in the “math *exists*” camp.
what is the OMG [ a proton that weighs 50 lbs ???] check it out in the
wikipedia
+Vijay Raj +Prasiddh Trivedi
Remember this? Discovery v/s Invention ?
I believe it falls onto the math realists to explain whether or not that
math exists. *They* are the one making a claim that math exists, so *they*
have to prove it.
(I’m hoping you notice that this is an analogy of another hot topic…)
How can math not exist outside our minds? 3+1=4 has always been true, and
will never stop being true. Even if space and time never existed, 3+1 would
still equal 4. Numbers themselves are the same. 3=3 works the same way, so
the value of 3 has always been 3, and would be without us. Am I wrong?
I see math more as a meta language that helps us describe physics, geometry
and other concepts. Somehow like XML?
Have your mind blown. :D
It’s an abstraction of the Universe that’s more easily understood. Without
the Universe, we wouldn’t have anything to abstract math from. If we were
in a Universe where things work out differently, math may even function
differently, as strange as that may sound. By proposing that math is purely
a human creation, we must also propose that Physics, Chemistry, Biology,
and all the other branches of science are inherently flawed since they rely
on Math and therefore no truth value can ever be taken from them. I think
that sounds absurd, but anti-realists may disagree.
Math is the mother of all sciences. Except that would be philosophy…
No, math is a simply part of our *language*! (it is “universal” in the
sense that it exists in every developed language on the globe) But our math
system have certain innate flaws. For example we cannot express the exact
value of the transcendental numbers. (watch numberphile) In fact we can
predict few patterns the digits of Pi.
But how is this different from any other scientific concept? We constantly
rethink and rework them, and we learn something new!
So yes fundamentally I think math is a human creation. But with the
possible excetion of natural constants; π (Pi), φ (Phi), e, √2, i, and so
on…
But as I already stated I math is language, and thus this debate is of
semantic nature. Thus not that useful. (But still interesting)
Without humans, there would be no one to discover math. Soo, we wouldn’t
know if it existed or not. Therefore we humans are credited for discovering
math. I mean if math was universally just there… It would just BE there.
No one would really care cus no one would BE there to know about it. So we
are credited for caring and knowing about it.
Mathematics is real and exists independent of the human mind. Anyone who
thinks otherwise doesn’t understand math, and is likely getting confused by
the human symbols, terms (names), and definitions that we invent in order
to comprehend math.
A very interesting question, everything that we believe as a species is as
a result of someone conceptualizing it so in that respect yes math too is
just something we created. Jewish people associate language with creation,
and numbers that correlate with the letters of the alphabet and help form
the language itself. The concepts within their beliefs tie language
directly to numbers and vice versa. Numbers and mathematical equations have
the potential to be conceptualized many different ways. The potential is
out there for lets say an exotic alien species to have created a completely
different form of math based on the same principles, and we can actually
see an example of it in the way people used to do mathematical equations
vs. how they are taught to do them today. Lets take the equation 32-12=20,
something easily recognizable but todays students are taught the “alien”
way of math which for the same equation of 32-12= they would take 12+3=15,
15+5=20, 20+10=30, and 30+2=32 the original number you’re subtracting from,
then you take all the numbers that you added into the four “new” equations
(3, 5, 10, and 2) and create one final equation (3+5+10+2) which just so
happens to equal the same solution you got before with (32-2) the number 20
which was reached through two different concepts of math, which both relied
upon the same set of principles as one another to get to the same
conclusion that 32-12=20. Everything, including language, that we use to
conceptualize the world around us has been created through the use of our
intellect and our mind, but is not substantiated in any way other than
through the observations we individually or collectively make. With that in
mind, even our perception itself is up for debate seeing that no light
actually makes its way into the part of our brain that processes the
signals from our eyes, Every input of information that we acquire from the
world around us is first converted into electrical signals and directed
through to our brains which act as processors ordering and making sense of
the data collected. There is even speculation that we could live in a
completely virtual world and never have any way of knowing the truth. The
double slit experiment is the only test that gives us potential proof to
the possibility of this reality being something different than we perceive
it to be, due to the fact that we can direct a particle at a double slit
and when we observe the particle it seemingly knows we’re watching it and
chooses slit A or slit B, but when we don’t observe it there is an
interference pattern as though the particle is acting like a wave and not a
single particle. So to speculate on what is real and what is not, is just
that speculation, and there may never be an ability to truly know for sure
what is real and not, regardless of how much we try to know about the
universe around us, that is unless we find out for sure we are in the
Matrix and then, well you’ll have to ask Neo what’s next.
An important (philosophical) question…
My worry: Fictional or real, it is a fact that logic (math) is compatible
with the functions in the universe to an immense range of scales that
surpass human experience (hence, I believe, evolution is not enough to
give a satisfactory answer given that this knowledge became available a few
hundred years ago – give or take). An this range is reasonable to expect
that will become much wider in the next few hundred years. So, what is the
relation of the human brain function to the function of physical phenomena
that are describable in terms of math (and many of them lie beyond the
everyday experience)?
Is Math a Feature of the Universe or a Feature of Human Creation? | Idea
Channel | PBS
Math exists in the universe, and its discovered with the help of the human
brain. Discovering Pi doesn’t mean it came into existence at that moment,
its always been there…
I think math is a way to observe….
Excellent video. One thing I’d mention is that at 1:03 he mentions that if
he had a twin, then there would be “2 of him”, and this is almost but not
quite correct. To genuinely have 2 of anything, those things should be
exactly identical, meaning that they would also be in the exact same
location at the exact same time. The only way that can happen is if one of
them is trivial. Most people just ignore this and mutter something about
fuzzy whatever as they wiggle their hands in the air.