Quantum Physics Debunks Materialism
Materialism has been dead for decades now and recent research only reconfirms this and goes even further, as this video will show. It ends with a brief intro…
Materialism has been dead for decades now and recent research only reconfirms this and goes even further, as this video will show. It ends with a brief intro…
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Youtube made itself stupid over night!
I thought you were an objective idealist.
i would like you to clarify the ending about God’s observance.
i would ask the question: “if God observes the universe, how can anything
in the universe be in the state of wave function?”
This video is ok, until it completely breaks down at 10:15 and misuses
somewhat the notion of Occam’s Razor. The same Occam’s Razor argument was
once used against the idea of the Sun centred Solar system. By Occam’s
Razor, the Copernican theory is multiplying space, the size of reality,
without necessity. If Quantum mechanics is true, then the ‘Many Universes’
necessarily exist. The Mathematics of Quantum Mechanics gives no
alternative. See the linear superposition property of Quantum Mechanics.
The multiverse only really involves those universes that are consistent
with the laws of physics. This video contradicts itself, on one hand it
acknowledges the Quantum superposition of living things and then at the
same time completely disregards the fact that we, the observer, are also
subject to Schrödinger’s equation. We have to apply linear superposition to
ourselves as well as to electrons and atoms. But, from a personal point of
view, it is great to see so many people naturally considering some form of
higher consciousness. The discussion that these sort of videos encourage is
great. You don’t have to fear the idea of ‘Many Universes’, it is not
necessarily incompatible with the idea of God.
So does this mean that humans create themselves since they are self aware?
Or does our existence require a Higher Observer??
What about a double aspect monism?
5:01 “The act of a conscious observer creates the existence of the physical
objects[…]”
I disagree. It’s weird that they use the term “observe”, for that seems to
entail a conscious entity who is doing the observing, but that it not how
“observe” is being used here. Sean Carrol put it simplest when he said,
“An observation is just when two quantum systems interact with each other”.
It doesn’t require the existence of a conscious entity at all.
Why do you assume that there must be a conscious observer for wave
collapse. There just has to be a measurement device!
The measurement device isn’t conscious.
OK… while the first video in the playlist is just assumptions… This one
actually gets the science wrong within the first 3 minutes… so i just
kept scrolling through it and It does get a lot of stuff wrong… The most
obvious one is that an object with sufficient “mass” will “collapse the
wave function” by itself… an example would be… throwing tiny rocks at 2
slits in a dark room with no “observer”… you will not get a wave
pattern… I can’t go on watching if the video starts with a false
presumption :)
Pseudoscience. Nothing to see here, move along.
This video got me angry at first, but now I’m just sad..
It all went so well all until the very end of this vid, where you just had
to mess it all up by pushing an agenda.
Why could you not just be intellectually honest?? Why did you have to
insert god of the gaps where our current understanding ends?
Materialism debunked is not proof of a deity. I’m not saying theism is
false, but it is far from the only explanation and I know you know it,
because you seem educated.
All I’m left with is the feeling that you really want to believe in God
because that’s what you have been brought up to believe, and you are so
afraid that he might not exist because it would shatter your world view and
hurt your relationship with religious friends and family members. I am left
with this feeling because you are trying too hard and it’s obvious.
Relax. It is okay to not know, let’s push for more knowledge and let’s keep
it honest. That’s how we make a better world.
Stupid video. This is the kind of stuff that gives philosophy a bad name,
when pseudo-intellectual internet philosophers talk about things they know
nothing about. I’ll debunk the video for anyone interested in learning
about this, because I too was fooled by people misrepresenting quantum
mechanics years before I actually learned any physics beyond high school.
Quantum mechanics is actually a lot more beautiful than these people make
it out to be.
1. “Observation” in quantum mechanics doesn’t mean the same thing as
literally “looking at something”, it means “measurement”. That’s a common
misconception. When physicists talk about “observation” they don’t mean it
in a literal sense.
Here’s the best analogy I can come up with to explain this: Imagine you’re
doing an experiment on a classical object such as a ball, and you want to
measure it’s position at some time and then it’s position again at another
time. For macroscopic objects, you can do measurements that are gentle
enough to not disturb the system and change it’s outcome. What you could do
is just record the ball with a video camera and analyse the video to see
it’s change in position. For this to happen, light has to be shining on the
ball (otherwise you couldn’t see it), but the momentum of the light is so
small that it has no measurable effect on the motion of the ball.
Now, imagine that instead of recording it with a video camera, you decided
to measure it’s position by throwing a brick at the ball and trying to hear
where the sound of the collision of the brick with the ball is coming from,
and then deduce where the position of the ball is from where that sound
came from. This is an example of a measurement that is not gentle, it
disturbs the system so much that it changes the outcome of the experiment.
This is what almost all quantum mechanical measurements are like. Quantum
mechanical systems are usually so fragile that even hitting it with a
single photon will disturb the system, thus changing it’s outcome. But
there *are* ways to measure a state without changing it’s outcome, look up
the Elitzur-Vaidman experiment.
2. Strictly speaking, wavefunctions are solutions to the Schrodinger
equation, elements of the Hilbert space L^2 (functions that are square
intergrable). What the wavefunction actually *means* in the real world is
still deeply mysterious, the person who made this video basically took one
interpretation of one interpretation of quantum mechanics (one way of
looking at the copenhagen interpretation out of many) and tried to pass it
off as scientific fact, even though he greatly misrepresented it.
I don’t really like the many worlds interpretation, but it definitely
doesn’t violate Occam’s razor. Mathematically, it’s the simplest
interpretation by far, it gets rid of unnecessary postulates. The
wavefunction collapse is one of those uncessecary postulates (or more
specifically, the projection postulate, not necessarily the same as the
wavefunction collapse), it can actually be taken out of quantum mechanics
and you would still have the exact same mathematical framework. It is not a
fundamental postulate, and it isn’t a postulate that can be proved using a
fundamental postulate.
3. The idea that concioussness is what causes the wavefunction to collapse
(if it actually does collapse) is not taken seriously anymore. Some
physicists in the early days of quantum mechanics (early 1900’s) were
interested in it because they didn’t have the technology to see the effects
of individual particles, so their measurements had to scale up to the
macroscopic scale, which is why it might have seemed plausible to them. But
today that’s not the case since we know that measurements on individual
particles have the same effect.
4. Please, someone explain to me how this in any way debunks “materialism”.
While you’re at it, define what “materialism” is, I’ve never heard a
precise definition of it that wasn’t vague. It seems to me that internet
philosophers don’t want to say “I believe in magic without evidence”, so
instead they say “I’m a non-materialist, and if you disagree with me then
you’re just a filthy materialist”.
Quantum Physics Debunks Materialism: http://youtu.be/4C5pq7W5yRM
I really liked the video. However, talk about Occam’s Razor, the last
minute and a half of the video made so many giant assumptions.
Why does human consciousness have to be a part of this at all? Couldn’t the
geiger counter be considered an observer of the atom’s decay in the cat
thought experiment? Couldn’t the measuring device measuring the electrons
in the two-slit experiment be an observer in itself capable of collapsing
the wave function? Going back to Occam’s Razor, a much much simpler
explanation of all of this than throwing a heavenly being into the mix is
that human consciousness is not a special circumstance, but that a
multitude of quantum interactions can add up to collapse a wave function,
hence why macro objects are not in superpositions; their atoms are
“observing” each other.
How would you respond to an article such as this one:
http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2014/05/12/study-zapping-sleeping-brains-allows-dreamers-to-control-their-dreams/#.U3IifOFkxzA.google_plusone_share
That states consciousness is clearly a brain function, as OBEs are
manipulatable, and other studies like it, I’m not disagree, just
wondering.
Quantum Physics Debunks Materialism: http://youtu.be/4C5pq7W5yRM
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Do you believe in a loving, personal god?
So many butt #rekt atheists upset because their beliefs and dogmas are
reaching a paradigm shift. It’s truly entertaining to watch them damage
control all of their outdated or inconclusive “evidence” in order to keep
up their guise as being “intelligent”. I predict egos will be crushed.
This is video is so good for putting this information in context, something
so few people do these days with scientific knowledge.
Wow. Consiously misinterperting almost every result just to add at the end:
“Therefore God”. Nice.
I love how he handwaves Everett’s Many Worlds interpretation away by
explaining it as superfluous When in fact, it’s the least superfluous
conclusion to come to mathematically.
So no, QM doesn’t disprove materialism, nor does it disprove realism. We’d
need more data to come to either an idealist or a realist conclusion. Until
then, I’ll stick with the theory based off mathematics, rather than the
mathematics based off theory.
The particles were there prior to your observation, The first part of you
argument says that the double slit produces X pattern before observation
and Y pattern after observation. If your first argument was correct, you
would have no pattern prior to observation (which is paradoxical as you
cant observe something that doesnt exist) and Y pattern after observation.
Quantum mechanics doesnt say that you or a god created reality by observing
(nothing apparently) but rather that reality is affected by our
observation. You aren’t constantly creating electrons out of thin air (or
space) when you observe them, you just change their properties due to your
observation.
Right off the bat you know this video is bullshit, most modern physicists
are materialists. This religious however to prove their is a god must
somehow try to undermine this and this video is trying to do that. Maybe if
this video were presented to the scientific community it could be taken
seriously but we all know the religious fool that created this video can
not prove what he is trying to imply so that will never happen. This video
is bullshit.
To be honest, you screwed this video up when you threw in the stupid
religious reference at the end. Don’t use quantum physics to prove —
directly or indirectly — a religious worldview. Such a shame for such a
great video, debunking the hell out of the dogma of materialism, to
indirectly be supportive of the dogma of a popular religion.